With inflammation as the main contributing factor to SO MANY chronic health conditions, our expert protocols, tips and secrets are vital to avoiding and responding to inflammatory conditions.

Our 37 health experts will share diet, detox and fasting strategies, research-based anti-inflammatory herbs and supplements and everyday lifestyle changes you can make to quickly decrease inflammation and promote deep cellular healing for a healthy gut, glowing skin, more energy, better brain health and a reduced risk for chronic disease.

We know that everyone is in a different place in their journey toward improved health, and we want to meet you where you are. Our packages are built just for that meeting. Choose a package experience below, then we’ll help you determine how best to engage with it!

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  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide
  • Online event streaming/downloading
  • Access to online event transcripts
  • Online access to advanced education
  • Online access to purchase gifts

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Chronic Inflammation Summit Education + Action Package
  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass ?
    Get the tools & strategies you need to unlock your body’s dormant healing potential.
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide ?
    A roadmap for teaching your body to become metabolically flexible
  • Online event streaming/downloading ?
    Unlimited access to the expert advice from all 37 event experts.
  • Access to online event transcripts ?
    PDF transcripts and downloadable eBook of all 37 expert conversations.
  • Online access to advanced education ?
    The Super Brain Program + The AutoImmune Elimination Program + Fasting Transformation Summit access.
  • Online access to purchase gifts ?
    Includes complimentary eBooks, webinar access, recipes & more!

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Action PackageMetabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide

Apply what you’ve learned with Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide and move toward improved health and happiness now.

Chronic Inflammation Summit Action Package
  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide
  • Online event streaming/downloading
  • Access to online event transcripts
  • Online access to advanced education
  • Online access to purchase gifts

$99 $69 USD

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Chronic Inflammation Summit Action Package

Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide

Our “Action” packages provide you with the tools and strategies you need to unlock your body’s dormant healing potential.

In this masterclass, you’ll learn how to reduce the effects of aging, inflammation and cellular damage with 15 in-depth video training sessions along with 5 image-rich, research-based guides to help you understand and stimulate your body’s innate mechanism for cellular healing.

Includes access to Dr. Jockers’ customized 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide — a roadmap for teaching your body to become metabolically flexible by burning fat for fuel, enhancing autophagy, stimulating deep cellular healing and optimizing your hormone expression in just 6 weeks!

Advanced Education

Purchase the Chronic Inflammation Summit to receive the following FREE programs.

  • The Super Brain Program A $868 value!

    Low energy, poor memory and brain fog are major problems for many people. Millions of children and adults throughout the world struggle with mental fatigue, learning, reading and  attention challenges. Yet, much of this can be remedied with the right strategies and protocols. In this program, Dr. Jockers will provide you with the secret keys to decrease brain inflammation and add years of highly productive activity to your brain.

    The Super Brain Program includes:

    • Super Brain Program manual, meal plan, recipes & guides
    • Neurotransmitter strengthening protocols
    • 40 instructional videos
    • 20 advanced healing strategies
    • 12 strategies to beat ADHD
    • Coaching assistance from Dr. Jockers & Team
    • And more!

    Supercharge your brain with advanced brain health strategies that get results!

  • The AutoImmune Elimination Program A $297 value!

    Gain access to Dr. David Jockers’ revolutionary program that comprehensively addresses the key factors in healing autoimmunity naturally. You’ll learn how to support and balance the stress response, implement an elimination diet, address leaky gut syndrome, restore nutrient deficiencies and help the body detoxify.

    The AutoImmune Elimination Program includes:

    • Program manual, quickstart guides, quiz & recipes
    • 6-week meal plan & food elimination journal
    • 40 instructional videos, including 18 step-by-step recipe videos
    • Plus, a dedicated Facebook group & daily emails
    • And more!

    As a clinician, Dr. Jockers has worked with hundreds of individuals suffering with diagnosed autoimmune disorders and thousands with chronic inflammatory problems. He developed The AutoImmune Elimination Program in order to make the healing model for autoimmunity more practical and user friendly.

  • Fasting Transformation Summit

    Enjoy exclusive access to Dr. David Jockers’ Fasting Transformation Summit and join 34 experts from around the world who specialize in the research and application of the fasting lifestyle. They will empower you to confidently implement fasting strategies for healing, resilience and performance. Discover how Dr. Jockers and other clinicians have seen thousands of chronic health cases get better with the use of intermittent and therapeutic fasting regimens.

    What you’ll learn from our experts at the Fasting Transformation Summit:

    • Health conditions that can benefit from fasting
    • Most common myths about fasting (debunked!)
    • How to get started with intermittent fasting
    • Best fasting strategies to produce optimal health
    • Research-based benefits of fasting
    • And more!

    With your complimentary HealthMeans account, you’ll be able to download or watch these talks online indefinitely!

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Inflammation is your body’s natural immune response to infection, irritation or injury, but too much inflammation for too long can create a chronic systemic response and damage the body at the cellular level.

In fact, inflammation is at the root of nearly every chronic health condition, including autoimmunity, cancer, diabetes, heart disease, arthritis, mood disorders, dementia and many more.

Ramped up into a repetitive cycle by lifestyle factors such as chronic stress, poor diet, toxin exposure, lack of exercise and not enough sleep, this inflammatory load builds up over time and can destroy the joints, hormones, brain, skin and heart and lead to chronic disease or pain.

Luckily, there are effective strategies to put out the fires of chronic inflammation and the conditions associated with it!

Lean on the wisdom of our health experts to help with...

  • Understanding the root causes of chronic inflammation
  • Protecting your brain & nervous system
  • Anti-inflammatory supplement & nutrition strategies
  • Strategies for deep sleep to restore hormone & blood sugar balance
  • Impacts of inflammation on the aging process
  • Natural strategies & technological advancements for cellular health
  • And so much more!

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Event Experts

  • David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

    David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

    Top 12 Inflammatory Lab Markers and Optimal Ranges

    What You'll Learn

    • Inflammation-mitochondrial connection
    • How to find hidden signs of inflammation your physician missed
    • Optimal cholesterol, homocysteine, CRP and vitamin D levels
    •  

    Visit David's website

  • Nasha Winters, ND, FABNO

    Nasha Winters, ND, FABNO

    Cancer-Inflammation Connection

    What You'll Learn

    • Metabolic approach to cancer
    • Lab markers for inflammation
    • Healing strategies for cancer and chronic inflammation
    •  

    Visit Nasha's website

  • David Perlmutter, MD, FACN, ABIHM

    David Perlmutter, MD, FACN, ABIHM

    Blood Sugar, Insulin, Inflammation and Brain Degeneration

    What You'll Learn

    • How blood sugar, insulin and inflammation impact the brain
    • Importance of sleep and exercise
    • Best foods and supplements for your brain
    •  

    Visit David's website

  • Donna Gates, MEd, ABAAHP

    Donna Gates, MEd, ABAAHP

    Candida Overgrowth and Gut & Brain Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • How we develop Candida overgrowth and gut dysbiosis
    • The gut-brain connection, mood issues and brain inflammation
    • Low-oxalate, low-histamine, micronutrient rich nutrition strategies
    •  

    Visit Donna's website

  • Eric Zielinski, DC

    Eric Zielinski, DC

    Toxins, Emotions, Essential Oils and Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • Impact of stress and toxins
    • Essential oils for reducing inflammation
    • Best EOs for improving mood
    •  

    Visit Eric's website

  • Christine Schaffner, ND

    Christine Schaffner, ND

    Biotoxin Illness, Glymphatic Function and Neural Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • Identifying interference fields that impact inflammatory levels
    • Oral health, mycotoxins, mold and Lyme disease
    • Strategies for improving glymphatic function and healing your brain
    •  

    Visit Christine's website

  • Kiran Krishnan

    Kiran Krishnan

    Leaky Gut, Endotoxemia, Inflammation and Microbiome Reconditioning

    What You'll Learn

    • How the microbiome impacts immune and inflammatory function
    • Keystone bacteria that regenerates the gut mucosa
    • Key nutrients and probiotics that support gut and immune health
    •  

    Visit Kiran's website

  • Marcelle Pick, OB-GYN, NP

    Marcelle Pick, OB-GYN, NP

    Inflammation, Adrenal Health and Menopause Connection

    What You'll Learn

    • Understanding perimenopause and menopause
    • Role of inflammation in menopausal symptoms
    • Foods and supplements for adrenals, liver and hormones
    •  

    Visit Marcelle's website

  • Carolyn Ledowsky, ND

    Carolyn Ledowsky, ND

    Epigenetics of Brain Inflammation and Mood Disorders

    What You'll Learn

    • How inflammation impacts serotonin and dopamine pathways in the brain
    • Analyzing genetics, blood work and organic acid testing 
    • Key nutrients that reduce inflammation and improve brain health  

    Visit Carolyn's website

  • Brian Vaszily

    Brian Vaszily

    Avoiding Skincare Toxins and Skin Health Solutions

    What You'll Learn

    • Lifestyle strategies and mindset shifts for healthy aging
    • Common toxins in skincare products that drive inflammation
    • Using nutrients and plant compounds to improve your skin  

    Visit Brian's website

  • Yoni Whitten, MD, CCWP

    Yoni Whitten, MD, CCWP

    Chronic Pain, Neurological Rewiring and Proprioceptive Movement Patterns

    What You'll Learn

    • Why is chronic pain such a major problem?
    • Reason why most pain management approaches fail  
    • Neurology of pain and lifestyle strategies to heal  

    Visit Yoni's website

  • Ken Swartz, MS

    Ken Swartz, MS

    Mitochondrial Energy Production, Oxidative Stress and Antioxidant Defense Systems

    What You'll Learn

    • How does oxidative stress impact your body?
    • Link between the mitochondria and overall health
    • Unique compound that acts as a free-radical sponge  

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  • Ameet Aggarwal, ND

    Ameet Aggarwal, ND

    Liver Function and Trauma: Healing Herbs for Gut, Bile Flow and Adrenals

    What You'll Learn

    • Role of liver health in the healing cycle
    • Strategies for healing emotional trauma
    • Top herbs and compounds for liver, gut and adrenal health  

    Visit Ameet's website

  • Peter Osborne, DC, DACBN, PScD

    Peter Osborne, DC, DACBN, PScD

    Food Sensitivities That Stimulate Chronic Inflammation and Pain

    What You'll Learn

    • Difference between food sensitivities, allergies and intolerances
    • Common food sensitivities and best testing methods
    • Supplement and nutritional strategies

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  • Todd Watts, DC, PScD

    Todd Watts, DC, PScD

    Parasites, Toxins, Viruses and Chronic Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • How parasites and viruses affect the immune system
    • Impact of toxins on mitochondrial energy production
    • Herbs and supplements for reducing parasites and viruses
    •  

    Visit Todd's website

  • Michael Ruscio, DC

    Michael Ruscio, DC

    Gut Dysbiosis, Low FODMAP, Elemental Diets and Probiotic Protocols

    What You'll Learn

    • Gut dysbiosis, SIBO, fungal overgrowth and histamine intolerance
    • Therapeutic diet trials and discovering the right probiotic formula
    • Gut-healing nutrients and herbs
    •  

    Visit Michael's website

  • Tiffany Caplan, DC, CFMP, BCIM, IFMCP

    Tiffany Caplan, DC, CFMP, BCIM, IFMCP

    Leaky Gut, Food Sensitivities and Autoimmune Disease

    What You'll Learn

    • Key factors that trigger autoimmune conditions
    • Understanding leaky gut and how to fix it
    • Best strategies for overcoming food sensitivities
    •  

    Visit Tiffany's website

  • Elena Villanueva, DC

    Elena Villanueva, DC

    Brain Inflammation, Anxiety, Depression and Mood Disorders

    What You'll Learn

    • How gut infections impact neurotransmitter balance
    • Leaky gut/leaky brain connection
    • Methylation, detox and drainage for optimal brain chemistry
    •  

    Visit Elena's website

  • Evan Brand, CFMP, NTP

    Evan Brand, CFMP, NTP

    Mold Exposure, Brain Inflammation and Detox Strategies

    What You'll Learn

    • Impact of mold and mycotoxins on brain inflammation
    • Lab testing strategies
    • Choosing herbs and binders
    •  

    Visit Evan's website

  • Jack Wolfson, DO, FACC

    Jack Wolfson, DO, FACC

    Truth About Cholesterol, Blood Pressure and Heart Arrythmias

    What You'll Learn

    • Role of cholesterol and its impact on heart disease
    • Leaky gut, leaky heart and blood vessel connection
    • Key nutrients and lifestyle strategies for cardiovascular health
    •  

    Visit Jack's website

  • Brian Mowll, CDCES, MLDE, IFMCP

    Brian Mowll, CDCES, MLDE, IFMCP

    Blood Sugar, Insulin and Chronic Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • How blood sugar and insulin impact inflammation levels
    • Nutritional strategies for improving insulin sensitivity
    • Research-based herbs and nutrients
    •  

    Visit Brian's website

  • Justin Marchegiani, DC

    Justin Marchegiani, DC

    Thyroid, Estrogen and Chronic Inflammation Connection

    What You'll Learn

    • Best thyroid labs and optimal ranges
    • Relationship between your gut, liver and thyroid function
    • Supplement and nutritional strategies for thyroid health
    •  

    Visit Justin's website

  • Rodger Murphree, DC, CNS

    Rodger Murphree, DC, CNS

    Deep Sleep, Blood Sugar, Insulin, Leaky Gut and Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • How stress and sleep impact blood sugar and inflammation
    • Best nutrients for improving sleep and leaky gut
    • Impact of leaky gut on overall health
    •  

    Visit Rodger's website

  • Ty Bollinger

    Ty Bollinger

    Relationship Between Sugar, Toxins, Inflammation and Cancer

    What You'll Learn

    • How sugar drives inflammation in the body
    • Environmental toxins you must avoid to prevent cancer
    • Everyday lifestyle strategies for a healthy immune system
    •  

    Visit Ty's website

  • Trevor Cates, ND

    Trevor Cates, ND

    Skin Inflammation and Leaky Skin Connection

    What You'll Learn

    • Relationship between leaky gut and leaky skin
    • Food triggers for inflammatory skin conditions
    • Key nutrients and skin-care tips for healthy skin
    •  

    Visit Trevor's website

  • Michael Murray, ND

    Michael Murray, ND

    Inflammaging: The Role of Inflammation in the Acceleration of Aging

    What You'll Learn

    • Theories on the aging process
    • Importance of sleep, exercise and a nutrient-dense diet
    • Key nutrients for mitochondrial health and reducing inflammation
    •  

    Visit Michael's website

  • Diane Kazer, FDNP

    Diane Kazer, FDNP

    How Toxic Beauty Drains Your Energy and Immunity

    What You'll Learn

    • How toxic shame impacts decision making
    • Breast implant illness, botox and beauty products
    • Detox your body, heal your hormones and ignite your life!
    •  

    Visit Diane's website

  • Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

    Jay Davidson, DC, PScD

    Liver Function, Bile Flow, Gut Problems, Itchiness and Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • Importance of phase I-III liver detoxification and bile flow
    • Key foods, herbs and nutrients for liver and bile function
    • Top strategies to dilate the bile ducts and remove toxins from the body

    Visit Jay's website

  • Bridgit Danner, LAc, FDNP

    Bridgit Danner, LAc, FDNP

    Head Trauma, Toxic Mold Exposure and DIY Detox Strategies

    What You'll Learn

    • Healing strategies for head trauma and concussions
    • Mold exposure: symptoms and testing
    • Solutions for reducing inflammation
    •  

    Visit Bridgit's website

  • Rob Besner, PScD

    Rob Besner, PScD

    Impact of Infrared and Heat on Detox and Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • Health benefits of near, mid and far infrared wavelengths
    • Stimulating heat shock proteins to improve immunity and stop viral replication
    • Advanced strategies for enhancing detoxification and deep cellular healing
    •  

    Visit Rob's website

  • Jodi Cohen, NTP

    Jodi Cohen, NTP

    Parasympathetic Response, Vagal Tone, Essential Oils and Resilience

    What You'll Learn

    • Cell danger response, sympathetic activation and inflammation
    • Activating the vagus nerve with aromatherapy and breathing techniques
    • Top essential oils for parasympathetic response and detoxification
    •  

    Visit Jodi's website

  • William Pawluk, MD, MSC

    William Pawluk, MD, MSC

    Impact of Pulsed Magnetic Fields (PEMFs) on Systemic Inflammation

    What You'll Learn

    • Difference between PEMFs and EMFs
    • How PEMFs impact adenosine receptors and increase cellular energy
    • Reducing inflammation, pain and improving sleep quality
    •  

    Visit William's website

  • Robert Scott Bell, DA, Hom

    Robert Scott Bell, DA, Hom

    Optimizing Your Internal Terrain for a Healthy Inflammatory Response

    What You'll Learn

    • Germ theory vs. terrain theory
    • Silver, aloe and probiotic protocol for gut health
    • Key minerals for detoxification and healing
    •  

    Visit Robert Scott's website

  • Jeffrey Smith

    Jeffrey Smith

    How GMOs and Roundup Impact the Environment

    What You'll Learn

    • Link between Roundup, glyphosate and inflammation
    • How GMOs influence leaky gut, dysbiosis and food sensitivities
    • Best strategies for avoiding GMOs and glyphosate
    •  

    Visit Jeffrey's website

  • Daniel Pompa, PScD

    Daniel Pompa, PScD

    True Cellular Detoxification for Inflammation Support

    What You'll Learn

    • How heavy metals and toxins trigger inflammation
    • Advanced nutrition strategies for improved cellular health
    • 5 Rs of cellular healing and reducing inflammation
    •  

    Visit Daniel's website

  • David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

    David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

    Fasting Strategies for Reducing Inflammation and Autoimmunity

    What You'll Learn

    • Stimulating autophagy and mitochondrial biogenesis
    • Customizing an intermittent fasting strategy for your body
    • How to prepare, execute and break an extended fast
    •  

    Visit David's website

Meet Your Host

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

David Jockers, DNM, DC, MS

Dr. David Jockers is a doctor of natural medicine who runs one of the most popular natural health websites, DrJockers.com, which has over one million monthly visitors. His work has been featured on popular media such as The Dr. Oz Show and Hallmark's Home & Family.

Dr. Jockers is the author of the bestselling book The Keto Metabolic Breakthrough (Victory Belt Publishing) and The Fasting Transformation. A world-renowned expert in the areas of ketosis, fasting and functional nutrition, he is also the host of the popular Dr. Jockers Functional Nutrition podcast.  

Dr. Jockers lives in Canton, Georgia, with his wife, Angel; his twin boys, David and Joshua; and his daughters, Joyful and Shine.  

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Education PackageChronic Inflammation Summit Talks Only

Access the talks via online library. Watch/listen on the website and/or download the audio, video and transcript files.

Education Package Chronic Inflammation Summit Talks Only
  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide
  • Online event streaming/downloading
  • Access to online event transcripts
  • Online access to advanced education
  • Online access to purchase gifts

$139 $69 USD

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Education + Action PackageChronic Inflammation Summit + Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide

Access the talks via online library AND apply what you’ve learned with Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide.

Chronic Inflammation Summit Education + Action Package
  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass ?
    Get the tools & strategies you need to unlock your body’s dormant healing potential.
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide ?
    A roadmap for teaching your body to become metabolically flexible
  • Online event streaming/downloading ?
    Unlimited access to the expert advice from all 37 event experts.
  • Access to online event transcripts ?
    PDF transcripts and downloadable eBook of all 37 expert conversations.
  • Online access to advanced education ?
    The Super Brain Program + The AutoImmune Elimination Program + Fasting Transformation Summit access.
  • Online access to purchase gifts ?
    Includes complimentary eBooks, webinar access, recipes & more!

$238 $99 USD

Major Credit Cards Accepted

Action PackageMetabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide

Apply what you’ve learned with Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass + Reset Guide and move toward improved health and happiness now.

Chronic Inflammation Summit Action Package
  • Dr. Jockers’ Metabolic Autophagy and Cellular Healing Masterclass
  • Dr. Jockers’ 6 Week Metabolic Reset Plan and Recipe Guide
  • Online event streaming/downloading
  • Access to online event transcripts
  • Online access to advanced education
  • Online access to purchase gifts

$99 $69 USD

Major Credit Cards Accepted
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